Originally by: GeraldRatner

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Basically what you are saying is that Ricdics recent behaviour has caused a run on your bank and a reduction in your deposits. You are also saying that this has caused liquidity ratios to be adversely affected and that this bond is being issued to address those issues.

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I can tell you, quite bluntly, that Gerald is trying to put words in Hexxx's mouth. I can also honestly tell you that if Hexxx feels free to use the words "run on the bank" >shudder< he would equally feel free to say anything else he feels is true and applicable as well.

And, if that wasn't blunt enough, "No"... this bond is not a sudden reaction to any kind of recent, or not so recent, drama that you may wish it to be connected to in any way shape or form. It's sole purpose was as Hexxx put it, to help fund some further loans. It was planned and voted upon by all the directors prior to this weekend.

The points you quote are only proof of your attempted thread derailment not of some sort of "cause and effect" example of Forum Fu. Ebank's isk reserves have not been touched nor is this "run" a sudden thing never before encountered or never again to be encountered.

In truth this could be attributed to post-weekend pvp disasters as much as it could be anything else. Not only is one as likely as the other but in fact your accusations and my suggestion might be smaller pieces of the bigger picture.

Originally by: GeraldRatner

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Anybody thinking of investing in this bond should be FULLY aware of ALL the issues surrounding it.

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Further, if this so called shortage and run on the bank is because of Ric... then why would I (of all people) look to sink more into Ebank? Don't bother answering as your only intent is to rabble-rabble instead of inform others. If you had any actual concerns you would not be using your unknown alt to express them. You'd use your main so that your words would be credible.

Instead, right now, you just want to play FUD.

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Originally by: GeraldRatner

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Not that such a minor detail would worry you

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Is your purpose to question Ebank's bond or just to get into forum fights with anyone that may post in this thread? I mean, Hexxx and other members of Ebank might feel free to discuss Ebank affairs with a concerned investor or 3rd party watchdog but to have to answer for non-Ebank statements... ... ???

I mean, Ebank is good but isn't that stretching Ebank's responsibility a tad too far?

I would suggest that if you are trying to keep the uninformed public informed about what you say is going on at Ebank (which no one else says is going on at Ebank btw) that you stick with arguing with Ebank responses.

Anything else is just... trolling.

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Originally by: GeraldRatner

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I think ive clearly made my point here so i think Gerald along with his decanters can now be subjected to biomass reprocessing

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And that, everyone, sums up the value of everything he had to say. Disposable drama at the drop of the trial account activation.

But, we shall miss you dear departed Gerald. Alas we knew you not very well but we do know your kind. You shall never be far from us even though your biomass may rot in some vat somewhere. In spirit and in main, your cowardly soul shall always be near to us ever waiting for the chance to re-emerge.

We look forward to that next meeting, anon, so that we may point and laugh at your churlish tail stuck between your legs, instead of your manhood, as proof that an alt is only as brave as his main is not.

And that ends my shakespearian moment of the day.
Next?

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Originally by: GeraldRatner

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The truth is alts irritate this forum because it cant indulge in its collective frenzied attacks on them.

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I don't know about everyone else's reasons for hating alt posting. I do know why I hate it: I can't fairly value the weight of your words without the context of your position.

You could be raising a valid concern. You could also be engaging in FUD. Without knowing who you are I can't, I won't, go out on the limb and credit your statements as you already proved that you won't go out on the limb to make those statements.

Fair trade in all things mate.
Even Integrity.

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Originally by: GeraldRatner

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This isn't going to go away however much you and CCP try and sweep it under the carpet until Kyrial gets his apology.

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And this is why I call your posting FUD. There is no way in god's green earth that I would act in any collusion with CCP in any sort of cover up.

As to the matter regarding Kyrial, please feel free to join in on one of the threads on the matter. I have opinions on it, you have opinions on it, everyone has an opinion on it... to include CCP I'd imagine. However this thread is not the place to engage in derailment for the sake of your desire for restitution or disruption.

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Originally by: Deez Onit

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The Ebank drama threads are getting almost as bad as Goons Vs. BoB... Almost to the point where I'm not even gonna bother opening EBank threads as all i'm going to be subjected to is trolling and drama... ITS GETTING OLD FROM BOTH SIDES DROP IT ALREADY!

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Wow, talking about positive reinforcement for thread trolling.

WTG, trolls win Eve.

PS: Sorry but it is the case here. We can't stop attempts at trolling or thread derailment. We do try to answer honestly and steer the topic back to the one at hand. I apologize if this seems like we engage in the "bad" behavior ourselves but it is either be active in the community or leave the community to the "lord of the flies" segment that never ever quits.

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Originally by: Deez Onit

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get off your high horse... I'm saying its getting tiresome from both sides

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I agree but the difference is, from our two perspectives, that you are not the target of slander and innuendo. Of course the other difference is, mine might be called "high horse" while I call it "ideals". Your addition to this thread I'd classify as the height of irony.

Expressing distaste of the drama while doing nothing more than adding to it. Lose-lose on both ends of it and, yes, you are giving positive reinforcement to trolling. You may not condone it but ... ...

Of course we could try talking about the bond though? I suspect that's an almost totally derailed topic but I'm willing to give it a go.

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Originally by: Leowen

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Specifically, if you see fit to have on your BoD some characters whose interpersonal skills are less than legendary, it may make sense to restrict their representation of EBANK to the boardroom.

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For what it is worth, membership on Ebank's BoD should not automatically be a total gagging though my innocuous advice in this thread here leads me to believe that:

A: To be able to post anything on these forums I must resign from Ebank.

B: If I choose to be part of Ebank I can not ever post anything again on these forums.

C: Some of you just live for drama and kicking down other people's sandcastles regardless.

Doesn't make a difference what I or anyone else does, someone's gonna say "ooooooh, you are so unprofessional". Well point of fact is as far as banking goes I am not professional. Banking is not my job nor am I inclined to make Eve my job.

I often try to bring a sense of perspective to Ebank's deliberations by pointing out that we are trying to create what all of you think a bank should be though we have few of the same legislative recourses or regulatory hindrances. Furthermore, we are all of us not banking professionals. We do a lot of research on banking, we spend a lot of time trying to make what happens in real life possible in Ebank. (Which ain't easy.) But no one deposited because of our joy-joy customer service uber methods. Or at least no one who was the least bit aware I was on the board deposited for that reason.

So, yes, I can on occasion be less than savory to some of you. I will endeavor to restrain my utter dismay at this ... ... revelation. However, truth be told, what confidence my involvement brought was not due to my winning smile in the first place.

This post was not posted as an ebank director but as a person who reserves the right to have a life and, like you, a voice.

Any one so dismayed may contact me in game if you wish to express a furtherance of some negative opinion regarding myself. I'd also suggest that if you have a problem with someone specific try using in game methods to resolve it before derailing and/or attempting to troll anyone's threads or posts.

If you can not bring yourself to resolve this in game Ebank does have forums and I'm sure that the administrators will allow you to express your opinions even the content of that opinion might not be allowed here.

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Originally by: Syrion1984

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I'd love to purchase one bond, but nowhere on the http://www.eve-bank.net/ website do I see an option to register for an account.. Any help please?

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On the Ebank Faq the first paragraph describes the account creation process.

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